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revenue. and that's supposed to come from raising taxes on the wealthiest. the president's plan asks for an extension of the payroll tax cut. and an extension of unemployment insurance benefits. it asks for a deferral of those automatic sequester cuts to defense spending and to local -- to domestic spend being. and it also asks, i love this one, a multi-year stimulus package, including $50 billion next year, much of that is going to go to recipients creating an infrastructure bank. the president also wants to refinance under water mortgages. and permanently increase the deposit limit without congressional approval every time. the president in bringing this list forward in his plan to resolve the fiscal cliff is just really going for it in this negotiation. he's aiming for the fences, and he has a mandate folks and he's not afraid to use it. here is representative jim chicago burn elaborate on the ground that theme today. >> us democrats ran with the president on this plan of his and we received democrats almost a million
is just 34 days away from the mix of hundreds of billions of dollars with expireing tax cuts. the president called on voters though pressure congress for a deal that would freeze taxes for 911%98% of for american families. >> call members of congress, write them, e-mail, post it on their facebook wall. tweet it by using the hash tag "my 2 k." >> if the latest "washington post" "abc news" poll is correct, the 06% 60% said they supported, and oklahoma congressman tom cole told politico last night, i quote i think we ought to take the 98% deal right now. it doesn't mean that i agree with raising the top two i don't. but house speaker john boehner disagreed with that call. >> i told him that i disagreed with him. >> eliot: he seemed more interesting in attacking the president than finding common ground. >> as the speaker said we have done our part. we have pup revenue on the table. we have not seen any good faith effort on the part of this administration to talk about the real problem that we're trying to fix. >> eliot: the finger pointing and the slow-moving talk seems to be cau
percents of americans to pay more in tax after having 12 years of a special tax break, which was only supposed to be temporary. if you say yes vote for me. mitt romney says, no, we are going to caudle, protect that top 2%. we are not going to raise their taxes. so if you say no, vote for me. that was a choice. the american people overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly, margin of 5 million, voted for president obama. john boehner is acting as if we never had an election in the first place and the election doesn't mean anything. is the senator has passed a tax break and john boehner is saying no, we will let 98% of americans pay $2,000 more in taxes. we will give a tax increase. we will raise taxes on 98% of americans unless you give us another tax break for our buddies and millionaires and billionaires, the top 2% in the country. you can't blame even mitch mcconnell any more. it's john boehner who is standing in the way. he did so again the republicans give this babble. the president says what's your plan? what do you want to cut? close loopholes. what loo
that the republicans accept a hike in the marginal tax rate for those with income over a quarter million dollars a year. my view? obviously i agree with the white house on the substance and as i have said before, their hand gets stronger over time. but sometimes a new idea can change the dynamic. here is an idea that has been around for a long time, supported by james tobin way back and pushed by ralph nadar in a "washington post" op-ed this weekend. impose a tax on financial transactions. it will give us up to $100 billion a year, fail on a sector that has generateed enormous unwarranted profits for very few but benefited from huge bailouts the regulatory help but by and large escaped responsibility for their role in the financial cataclysm we're still struggling with. with me, dan gross author of "better, strong, faster." and brian beutler and eric bates. what's your take on this? how severe will the harm be to the economy if we do not have a deal by december 31st. >> the macroeconomic harm is not going to be that great. our economy is adaptable adjustable. these things take place over the course of
. president obama with a big kind of pep rally at the white house to push those tax cuts for the middle class and republicans on capitol hill saying no, no, no, we hate the middle class. come on. let's give tax cuts to the rich! the millionaires and the billionaires, to the koch brothers and donald trump. we'll bring you up to date and give you a chance to sound off on the issues which i know you can't wait to do. you can do it by giving us a call at 1-866-55-press. you can join the conversation on twitter at bpshow on facebook, facebook.com/billpressshow. and if you really want to get into it with your fellow "full court pressers," go into the chat room. try it out. it is a lot of fun. go to current.com and click on the chat room and you are in! here we are. lucky day. thursday november 29 for somebody. >> it wasn't that lucky. you're still here. peter ogborn and dan henning good morning guys. leading team press with phil backert and cyprian bowlding. cyprian and i had our powerball tickets. we were ready, we were
from president obama that includes $1.6 trillion in tax increase over ten years. more stimulus spending to boost the economy including home mortgage refinancing and the permanent end to congressional control over the debt ceiling. in return, president obama is offering republicans $400 billion in entitlement cuts over ten years. still to be negotiated. mr. obama also wants emergency unemployment benefits and a temporary payroll tax holiday extended along with the infrastructure spending and mortgage relief, the price tag for the president's stimulus bill could rise to $50 billion or more. after meeting with secretary geithner, speaker boehner said he didn't see any sign of compromise from the white house. >> first despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> eliot: no sooner had boehner finished then
the bush tax cuts for the middle class. the latest from stephanie cutter includes a two-minute video reminding voters that the president campaign and won on that same platform. >> obama: we need to give tax relief to working families trying to raise their kids to keep them healthy send them to college, keep a roof over their heads. that's the choice in this election. >> the administration is still asking you to send in stories about what being able to keep about $2,000 more a year means to you and your family. the president is planning to meet with state governors this week and the business roundtable, a big business lobbying group. this morning fiscal cliff negotiations appear to be at a stand still. treasury secretary tim geithner says the president's offer is unwavering. we're going to let tax rates go up for top earners and republicans will have to work with that reality. >> there is no responsible way we can govern this country with those low rates in place for future generations. those rates are going to ha
said today that he would rather see tax rates go up than close loopholes because then he thinks he can get tax reform passed in the future. a little bit of wishful thinking. >> i know we have to raise revenue. i don't really care which way we do it. actually, i would rather see the rates go up than do it the other way because it gives us greater chance to reform the tax code and broaden the base in the future. >> jennifer: so he's not giving in. he's just bargaining now to see what he can get later. and then we've got the fourth stage which is depression. which is often accompanied according to elizabeth kubler ross by wistful thoughts of better times. newt gingrich is planted firmly in this stage. he said he longs for the 1990s when republicans led by him of course, were, in his estimate aches, republicans were more able, more powerful, able to get president clinton to bend to their will or at least so he said on piers morgan last night when he said "we earned president clinton's respect by closing the government
. >> but will they actually cut taxes on the rich? not raise them, cut them. they wouldn't do that, will they? you are about to find out. >> republican goes after susan rice. >> absolutely it was wrong. >> here's what i can tell you. the american people got bad information on 15 september. >> some surprising opinions on that. stay right here for that, as well. then a movie about how we got bin laden but did they get classified information? that's a new controversy. >> you think you know the story but hold on to your seat. >> it's a huge controversy. an investigation was begun about you receiving classified material. >> who's guilty, who's innocent? we decide here on the "young turks." also, the man who created pulp fiction, kill bill, inglorious bass starteds on the set today. and republican on republican crime, elbow of the day. go time. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> cenk: david pluck is one of the to which advisers for president obama. he's talking about what they're going to do in regards to the grand bargain and he says some things that are very, very interesting, revealing exactly what we had feared was going o
right i'll resubmit it for you. $1.6 trillion in tax increases over ten years. $50 billion in immediate stimulus spending. he was rubbing their nose in it, yeah i want more stimulus. how do you like me now. no congressional votes to raise for debt ceiling and $400 billion in long-term savings from medicare. republicans, conservatives oh, they're we side be side themselves. >> the proposal delivered by secretary geithner was not a serious proposal. >> it was not a serious proposal. >> we got to get serious here. >> serious decisions. >> say it isn't so, mr. speaker. >> serious matter. we're being serious. this is not a serious offer. >> this is an insulting deal. >> this is not a game. >> i'm not trying to make this difficult. >> that offer yesterday was simply not serious. we're not going to increase tax rates. >> and that's just the way it is. >> cenk: i love that. >> seriously. >> cenk: yes seriously--everybody get serious. our position is not changing at all. i can't believe that other guy who won't change his position. >> and also we don't remember that we just lost an election. it'
it comes to taxes. as you all know by now house republicans sent in a fiscal cliff counter offer yesterday but the white house is calling it no good. i want to give you an idea of where the two sides stand right now. boehner's new plan would raise $2.2 trillion. now it would extend the bush tax cuts for everyone and yes that does include the top 2%. and it would instead raise $800 billion in revenue from so-called tax reform and that's what we mean when we talk about capping deductions and closing loopholes. the rest of the money comes from cuts to both mandatory and discretionary programs. now to recap again on the president's offer, he wants to raise $1.6 trillion, that's double boehner's amount on the rich an and he's asking for more than $200 billion in stimulus spending and promising about $400 billion worth of cuts to social programs. now obviously those two plans have very little in common. neither side is budging when it comes to their demands on taxes. but now here are a few problems with boehner's proposal.
for a package that includes tax rate increases for the wealthy. not to be outdone speaker boehner announced that house republicans would be making similar appearances across the country, going to small businesses to speak about the "threat to jobs posed by congressional democrats" small business tax hike. while members of congress plan to take their case to the american people, the afl-cio is planning to take the american people to members of congress sending 33 local union leaders to capitol hill to push members of congress to let the bush tax cuts expire and leave social security untouched. one positive to emerge from negotiations so far has been that for the first time in recent memory, republicans have expressed an openness to increased revenues which means the choke hold grover norquist and his tax pledge held on republicans may be loosening. frank bruni thinks republicans devolved into dummies and nor west was their ventriloquist. not everyone saw norquist as the cause of the problem. defending him truth is that
are they going to increase taxes. i predicted 37-38% and capitol gains 20%-22%. i don't have definitive numbers for you sos i got it right but i read this today: >> cenk: now do you understand that? the clinton era rates are 39.5 wear. all along, president obama was saying i'm taking away the bush tax cuts, we're going back to the clinton era rates right? all of a sudden not really going back to the clinton era rates. that's why i was saying you know what, they might increase the rates because president obama has said it way too many times not to increase the rates at all, but although as we've sheen you, they've also hint haded they might lower rates. he's not going to go back up and take the bush tax cuts away. the final might be 37%. politico same reporting as the wall street journal on that. they say it might be about $1.2 trillion in tax increases. they say realistically it could be closer to a trillion dollars. that's similar to what we've been hearing. the democrats are supposed to have leverage, but looks like they'll get the same trillion dollars that president obama has always been as
. >> coming up, america's lopsided tax code. more and more economists are starting to admit the real problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cc >> with all the hysteria over the fiscal cliffs, there was euphoria when john boehner puts fort a proposal. his proposal fails every test. let's not forget, the deficit isn't the biggest problem. it's the lack of demand and equity in our distribution of income, two little data points we shouldn't forget. 93% of the in jump added in the 2010 went to the top 1% and wages are the lowest they've ever been. it's simply not fair. for ideas to solve the problems and the deficit at the same time, bob rob an and larry summers suggested some away raise capital gains taxes. lets stop giving capital preferences over earned income. it's only fair and right. it won't solve the problem but will go a long way. back to john boehner. he doesn't say anything about this, because he refuses to raise rates. it can only be because he refuses to see the real problem. joining me now congressman thank you for joining us as always. >> thank you. am
, representative tim wall. putting forth the petition for the middle class tax cuts in the house. >> like that. >> stephanie: a little something for everybody this morning. here she is, jacki schechner for everybody. in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody! president obama is meeting with business leaders again today to talk about the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff. he's also claiming to call on congressional leaders to make sure we raise the debt ceiling without contention. the white house making the case that extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class is directly connected to the health of our businesses. companies need to know consumers will be able to spend and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he st
of the year, as i am sure you know by now the average middle class family is facing a 2,000 dollar tax hike. on monday of this week the white house released a report saying that could be americans spending $200,000,000,000 less in 2013. the president will continue to push his message but is it time to reach a deal over the fiscal cliff? but the g.o.p. is not so keen on a deal, at least the one the white house presented yesterday. the first offer from president obama and treasury secretary timothy geithner included a $1.6 trillion tax increase along with an extension of the payroll answer it cut and unemployment insurance and a request for $50,000,000,000 worth of stimulus spending next year. now, it doesn't promise $400,000,000,000 worth of spending cuts but congressional republicans call the deal unbalanced and unreasonable and saying there is not enough spending cuts and reforms. the one good piece of -- piece of good news to the white house on this is it shows president obama is opening strong not conceding. we will be right back. arguments to feel confident
immediate action to avoid those automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january. president obama is saying that with the way speaker boehner plan stands now, no deal. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal is out of balance. we will have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we are not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> that was an exclusive with bloomberg t.v. and the first televised interview since the president's re-election. as you heard, taxes are the big issue blocking this deal from taking place. president obama is calling for downhill the amount of tax revenue as speaker boehner over the next tens years, most from the nation's top earners. many. republicans say that's not the way to handle this. here is marco rubio. >> it wouldn'ting make a small bent in the debt but it would heard middle class businesses. >> the g.o.p. could be risking a civil war over this issue. it does not look like obama is ready to cave. if that forces republican leaders to compromise staunch conservatives will likely rebel. more "bill press" up after t
, it's my 2 k a typical middle class family of form will see taxes rice $2,200 if congress does not act and now we're seeing caving on republicans. >> they're launching their own hash tag for twitter, it's "my two sticks" and you can rub them together if you're cold in the winter. [ magic juan music ] wand music ] >> so the first cracks on the republican stance on higher tax rates. john boner may make it in time for christmas. we'll see. do you remember when i asked for that so i could go like this, and you would play that. ♪ grandma got run over ♪ by john boehner ♪ lost her medicare ♪ on christmas eve ♪ she don't deserve ♪ no healthcare ♪ nor medicaid ♪ or social security ♪ he'd been drinking ♪ too much eggnog ♪ and we begged him not ♪ to go ♪ then he put on too much ♪ bronzer ♪ and he staggered out ♪ the tavern ♪ through the snow ♪ when we found grandma ♪ that morning ♪ality the ♪ at the base ♪ of the fiscal cliff ♪ she had orange marks ♪ on her forehead ♪ and cheet-to ♪ flavored tears ♪ on her lips ♪ grandma was ♪ ran over ♪
position that we talked about yesterday, and that would force a vote for the bush tax cuts. the new "washington post" pugh research poll say 58% of those asked say it would be the republicans fault if we go over the fiscal cliff. and that shows all this back and forth isn't doing house gop any good. we're back after the break. alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. rich, chewy caramel rolled up in smooth milk chocolate. don't forget about that payroll meeting. rolo.get your smooth on. also in minis. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my go
will be able to reach a deal before the tax hikes and spending cuts kick in just 33 days. it is going to look bad for congress if they cannot get this done and some republicans are saying it's time to give in. politico's also reporting oklahoma representative tom cole told his g.o.p. colleagues yesterday to move forward with the president's he plan to extend the tax breaks for everyone except the top 2%. cole said that he does not agree with raising taxes for anyone but that it is time to take care of the majority of the american people first and fight for the wealthy later. that bill made it through the senate back in july but it still has not made it through the house. we're right back. you're about to watch an viewer created ad message for little caesars who proudly salutes united states veterans everywhere. >> clarksville is a small town on the tennesse/kentucky boader and it is a really great place to raise a family. my name is lloyd allard i was a chief officer in the special forces, i was in the army for 23 years. i have made 1400 parachute
't include the tax cuts for the middle class or the expiration for the bush tax cuts for the top 2%. and they are like here is our offer. if you are going to make a deal at least deal something somebody actually wants. >> yeah. >> stephanie: serious plan. they are like they won the election. >> it is totally farfetched and they are like i don't understand why he doesn't want it. >> stephanie: all right. here she is, jacki schechner in the current news. >> good morning. we already know that ashley judd can show a much wider range of emotion that some. she has been taking steps to assess her options when it comes to running for office. she is doing opposition research on herself to see where she might be most vulnerable. mcconnell will be running for his sixth term another option is to run against senator rand powell in 2016. there is a briefings tomorrow on the september 11th attack on our console consoleate attack in benghazi they the talking points were watered down by the cia. it said the notes did contain reference to al-qaeda but the cia took it off. elizabeth war
a short-term agreement right now and then pushing important decision abouts entitlement reform taxes that kind of stuff into 2013. clearly we're not confronting a killer drop off, a fiscal cliff that we hear so often that will send the country careening into a recession after bees december 31st. this will play out across 2013. it's not going to happen all on one single day. it is a fiscal slope. some of the budget lines here in washington has tried to emphasize that point. but the problem is when you have john boehner and in the white house, folks like this in washington using the term fiscal cliff, it takes to become a reality and take on language of its own. >> eliot: it seems to me that there is an element of hysteria being created and used by some folks. you have fix the debt coalition that is pounding away at this terror, and then you see cmbc and this business interest. then they come in and ask for a huge cut in corporate taxes. one doesn't follow the other. is this an element of a trojan horse being used by folks to ramp up hysteria, and then get policy changes that aren't ev
facility. the president's visit would highlight the impact that the taxes would affect the season. it's all to garner public support and back republicans into a corner as fiscal cliff negotiations continue. tim geithner went up to the hill yesterday and laid out the president's offer. this is what it looks like. the goal is to get to $1.6 trillion in revenue. letting the tax cuts expire for the top 2% and then raise capital gains. that would bring in $196 billion. and then the tax code over overhaul, and extension of unemployment benefits and more stimulus spending. republicans for their part dismiss the offer immediately calling it unbalanced, and unreasonable. so the question is what kind of leverage do republicans have at this point? talking points memo notes that they do have control over whether or not we raise the debt ceiling which is something we have to do in the next few weeks or so. while it does not factor into the mass that is considered right now it does give house speaker john boehner program cuts like entitlement cuts back into the conversation. we're back with the show stay
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's cheaper than many rivals. it costs about $25,000 after a federal tax credit. but, of course, i'm partial to the spark's big brother the incredible amazing chevy volt. okay, i'm a little obsessed but i'm going to show you why. let's go for a ride. okay so here we are in this fabulous volt. it is the best car i have ever owned. my big question is why doesn't everybody else own one? you have to put your seat belt on. we're in the middle of a city and if you were in a regular car, you would be hearing the engine hum. in this car you don't hear anything. it sounds like the car is off. it's so quiet! and luxurious. now some people find that disturbing. so the auto companies have now taken to offering you the option -- they're exploring putting this on a number of different electric vehicles where you can pick your sound. so if you wanted to have a sound of a revving engine with real torque, you could opt to put that on your very quiet car. why you would, i don't know. but some people like the sound of power. t
sparing the top earners from any more taxes. tea partyers object to raising any revenue at all. on the other side the president is not pleased with boehner's plan because he said there would be no deal without higher tax rates for the wealthy. >> obama: if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made, and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, then we're going to have to say the rates on the top 2% go up, and we're not able to get a deal without it. >> jennifer: and jay carney piled on the g.o.p. plan. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenue. it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> jennifer: magic beans and fairy dust. those are fighting words--frilly fairytale fighting words but still fighting words and boehner came back with a few verbal jabs of his own saying, quote, if the president really wants to avoid sending the economy over the fiscal cliff he has done nothing to demonstrate it. but even as the democrats poun
talks about his plan to reduce the deficit by raising taxes on top earners today. this part should not be a tough sell for the president especially with the general public. abc "washington post" conducted a poll that reaffirms that 60% say let's do it. while it's mostly democrats and independents in favor, 40% of republicans agree to do it as well. that should give republicans some room to negotiate. tom call from oklahoma tells politco-that he thinks we should extend tax cuts and change the tax for top earners at a later date. taxes could go up but that does not constitute voting for a tax increase. a meeting with a big list from goldman sachs we're back after the break. as i looked out across the battlefield at antietam. i saw the future of one great nation. but only barely, because the sun was like, way in my grill. george mcclellan, the general, hands me his pair of foster grant sunglasses, and i could see! my wife, mary todd, found them so fetching. >> he looked so fine i started to call him babe-raham lincoln. >> i was like, mary, please. >> you look like a baby, a literal c
the bush era tax cuts for those making less than $250,000, but not for those making more. echoing the holiday theme with this grinch like association. >> let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult. >> jennifer: stalemate. didn't we just start talking? oh wait, he's just posturing right? to sort out the latest tough talk from the posture is michelle bernard founder of the bernard center center for women public policy. welcome back inside "the war room," michelle. >> thank you. >> jennifer: so, how serious is the stalemate that speaker boehner announceed today? >> i was listening to that sound bite a second ago and i don't know if i want to cry or if i want to laugh. i don't know how we get to a stalemate when number one the negotiations just began. number two the president has presented congress with his proposal and we have not heard anything from the republicans with a counter parolees counter proposal or what it is that they're offering. you got to think it that they're joking this is a joke, right? >> jennifer: i'm so intrigued by the negotiation strate
in 2009 if you had a third of the package as tax cuts then republicans who are traditionally more comfortable with tax cuts may just pocket that and attack to other components of the program. that is exactly right. it appears that the president's team has finally learned that lesson, which is very reassuring. i'm going to bring in michael shure, our epic political correspondent. they're even running ads now or it seems like ads campaign ads even though the campaign is over. let me show you one of them, and then get your reaction. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> the polling is with the president. the clear mandate of this election was that the majority of americans agreed with president obama's vision of one of the ways to fix the fiscal cliff had to be to put new revenues and raise the tax rates of the wealthiest americans. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: so taking this case to the american people fighting strong, making his own case which he we've been asking him to do for four straight years. my reaction was this. >> flabbergasted. [ laughing ] >> cenk: what's your reaction. >> slightly flabber
which is we don't tax nearly enough. >> do you actually trust the people--let's say that we do tax people and trust them with the money we're giving them. if you can say that we trust the people in washington, people who have been in power longer than we're alive. >> cenk: that's a good point and i don't trust them at all. if you watch this show, democrats or republicans, i think they're all bought because we have set up an election with that's how they win. and they pay back those favors. but at the same time we're all paying taxes even under this corrupt system. why are the rich paying a disproportion atally lower taxes. i'm the first one who wants to clean it up, why is it doubly corrupt that they're not paying their fair share. when you look at our golden age we pay 70 to 90%. >> i have no problem with saying let's raise taxes. the problem is i don't trust the people that we give the money to. >> cenk: you still have to do the spending cuts and they're not going to come from the corrupt places. it's going to come from the needy. >> if we don't deal with the youth in our country
on the naughty list. and he asked republicans to extend the bush era tax cuts for those making less than $250,000, but not for those making more. echoing the holiday theme with this grinch like association. >> let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult. >> jennifer: stalemate. didn't we just start talking? oh wait, he's just posturing right? to sort out the latest tough talk from the posture is michelle bernard founder of the bernard center center for women public policy. welcome back inside "the war room," michelle. >> thank you. >> jennifer: so, how serious is the stalemate that speaker boehner announceed today? >> i was listening to that sound bite a second ago, and i don't know if i want to cry or if i want to laugh. i don't know how we get to a stalemate when number one the negotiations just began. number two the president has presented congress with his proposal and we have not heard anything from the republicans with a counter parolees counter proposal or what it is that they're offering. you got to think it that they're joking, this is a joke, right? >> jennif
tax changes would affect them. an schmidt tweeted: >> do you think it's a good idea to go out to the people as the president is negotiating with congress. >> i personally am a big proponent of anytime you're blinging people into the halls of capitol hill, this is one of the most polarized congresses we have seen. compromise has not been king of the hill for sometime now. i'm not sure it works. last year, bringing public pressure to the payroll cut extension through congress. i'm not sure it works this time, but it's an innovative way to get folks engaged. >> of course all of this negotiation around the fiscal cliff, the president actually indicated today that he might be president-electable. he says he's not necessarily looking for income tax rates as high as they were under president clinton. secretary geithner is going to meet with congressional leaders tomorrow. do you think they will demonstrating some wiggle room, as well? >> i personally don't think it's that big of a banner sign. if there was actually a movement toward a deal, i think you'd see president obama meeting w
to use #my2k to determine how tax changes would affect them. an schmidt tweeted: >> do you think it's a good idea to go out to the people as the president is negotiating with congress. >> i personally am a big proponent of anytime you're blinging people into the halls of capitol hill, this is one of the most polarized congresses we have seen. compromise has not been king of the hill for sometime now. i'm not sure it works. last year, bringing public pressure to the payroll cut extension through congress. i'm not sure it works this time, but it's an innovative way to get folks engaged. >> of course all of this negotiation around the fiscal cliff, the president actually indicated today that he might be president-electable. he says he's not necessarily looking for income tax rates as high as they were under president clinton. secretary geithner is going to meet with congressional leaders tomorrow. do you think they will demonstrating some wiggle room, as well? >> i personally don't think it's that big of a banner sign. if there was actually a movement toward a deal, i think you'd see p
's interesting. he says $800 billion in revenue. he's going to lower the tax rates anyway. he never explained it, did he, michael? >> not once. there was zero specificity, as carney said, you would have to read the letter and see. >> cenk: just trust me, nonsense right? the $600 billion changes to medicare and medicaid, they're cutting mandatory programs, cutting discretionary spending, $300 billion and by the way $200 billion in cuts to social security but changing the consumer price index. as you look at this, it looks really unpopular. >> it is, too. boehner's in a tough spot right now, because you have defected, yes, held the house but their house caucus is fractured. you have people in the tea party wing saying under no circumstances are we going to vote for anything that increases taxes. >> the heritage foundation and conservatives fighting back to boehner saying it's not enough. we need much more. we need to you hack away at social security and medicare more, so now boehner is between a rock and a hard place thee theoretically. it's atrue we don't want to have too much sympathy for john b
're gonna catch them on their land or the irs is gonna come after them for taxes. the two men deputies arrested, were hiding in the hills near their marijuana field, for several days. investigators say the men admit to having at least two more partners, but given the size and sophistication of this operation, they likely had even more help. you can look at it two ways. you can get in, if you're successful for two years and doing it big and don't get caught, hey more power to ya. they pulled it off. if you get caught, you're going in, you're in trouble. versus, you do this legally for say five years. in the end it probably all they're leaving the mom and pops alone now. they're going after the mafia gardens, which nobody here likes. and we don't like 'em, but we don't have anything to do with it. the cops have to find 'em. we don't know where they're at. we know where...we know where they're..we know the areas they're in, but we don't go there because it's dangerous. even for local people, you can't go for certain walks in certain woods because there's armed men out there that will do y
the economy if you raise rates on the top 2%. >> tax reform, ultimately will produce lower rates. >> medicare and medicaid are the main drivers of our deficit. >> are you willing to give up medicare and medicaid? big cuts to make sure that the wealthiest get away with the tax rates that they want? >> of course! >> obama: i'll go anywhere and do whatever it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> cenk: nonetheless they probable will. president obama came out and gave a speech that was fairly progressive, and he argued only for tax cuts for the bottom 911%. watch. >> obama: if both parties agree we should not raise taxes on middle class families, let's begin our work with where we agree. if we can get a few house republicans to agree as well, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. i got to repeat--i got a pen. i'm ready to sign it. >> cenk: my god, he's got a pen. so do i. and i'll have more for you in just a minute. that's good. and one of the top republicans in the house, he came out and said something very interesting. he said, i think
predictability from our government. they realize that our taxes are going to be up a little bit. they know there is going to reform to social security and medicare, they want to know so they know how to plan for their companies. i hope it's resolved before i get there if not so be it, i see this as an opportunity for america to lead the way. china is slowing down. india is slowing down. europe is in a recession. south america is slowing down. we have an opportunity to lead out of this mess. i hope we take the lead. >> jennifer: everyone wants to prevent going over over the cliff you still will have a lot of issues on how best to lead the country forward. allen west will be gone but there will be tea partyers remain. how do you work with people who think compromise is a bad word? >> look, i was just earlier with the republican part of my district today and met with a lot of republican commissioners. the message i told them is what i told everybody. whether you're a republican, democrat, i have an open door. i want to hear your thoughts, your concerns and i want to be your voice in washingto
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